We discussed some aspect of form and the concept of poetry itself. What are your thoughts about this? How does this relate to fiction and the limitations that some writers impose to add degrees of complexity to their work?
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Olivier
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Poetry can be beautiful, boring, too hard to understand or even too easy to understand.
ReplyDeleteI really prefer "free" poetry than poetry that follows strict rules; I believe it's easier to understand what the author really wants to showcase. However, poetry that follows rules is richer and easier to analyse.
Ève
I do not like poetry that follows certain standards. They feel bland and devoid of personality. Giving yourself limits makes your brain work harder to reach a certain level of complexity, but that doesn't mean free poetry can't reach the same level of complexity. It just means it's harder to reach it when you give yourself a guideline to follow.
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I like poems that don't follow rules; simply because of the idea that words aren't the only interesting part of a poem. The way words are placed and even the material it's written on can greatly influence what needs to be said. A cheap, easy example I could use is writing a poem about the beauty of nature and paste the words on an steel plank. Just like visual art, it's more than the image or words, it's also how you present them.
Free verse poems are nice, because they show that you DON'T HAVE to follow RULES to call it a POEM. Which is good, because it opens the field of view to what real poems should be. Still, poems with a certain number of feet, rythm and everything are nice también. But those we analsed last week are special because they are like ''against the law'' of ''real'' poems. That's all.
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I like free verses poems but also the poems that follow a structure. Both are great and can express a feeling and be interesting to read. But when comes the time to analyze a poem, it it simplier and more interesting to analyse a structured poem. Personally, I prefer to follow certain rules when I write a poem, it is more challenging to write.
ReplyDeletePoems that follow rules are beautiful in its own way and the language seems kind of elegant to me, but somehow, being tied with the structure limites ideas and sometimes the idea might not be what we thought. I like free verse more, even if it doesn't sound as good as the structured one, but writing with all your content is what's the most important and the idea have more chances to be understood easily.
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ReplyDeleteI appreciate so much more poems with rules when the meaning is fully understood. Besides, poems from other period of time have to be put in their context and that is hard somewhat. Nevertheless, I prefer to get kicks by reading them instead of analyzing them.
Mathieu Bussières
I prefer free verse because it is easier to understand the meaning of author, but indeed the poetry with rules is very beautiful. However the most difficult to me is not the verse but the figurative writing. That’s beautiful but also terrible.
ReplyDeleteWe have read many poems in the class, and I think the poem which we read in last week is the best (except My Papa’s Waltz, that’s the easier one, and I like it). The Heart by Crane is my favorite; even I cannot explain it well.
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It depends on the poem. Some poems do better with free verse, while others work well with certain standards. It depends on the writer's style, what he or she is trying to convey, usw. Ultimately, it all boils down to the writer. Whether he or she can write free verse or standard form well is up to them.
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ReplyDeleteI personnally prefer free verse because people have so many possibilities. They can write the way they won't without any rules. They let the imaginations on the paper ... like the surrealism movement. Pretty cool I think! :)
I prefer poetry wihout the form limitations, because when they follow rules poets often have to use different words than the ones they wanted to, to make it fit, but even if it doesn,t rhyme, what's the big deal? it's poetry!
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ReplyDeleteI have to say that I am not a big fan of poetry itself, but if I would have to choose a style, it would be the free verse. Why ? Well because it is more artistic, more free for your imagination to go where it wants, instead of following some rules to make it more formal for academies to consider it a good poem.
As for On the Roead, I continue to enjoy it as it is, raw and simple; having a good time without a tomorrow. I find the character of Neal very attaching, a kind of madman always down for anything, so spontaneous... he reminds me of one of my friends haha ! I can also relate to Jack which seem like a great guy to meet, smart and fun. It's definitely the best book we've read in this class.
I think poems are all beautiful in their way. Poets write not to please people but for themselves. It's something very personal and if they want to make it hard and follow all the rules, well it's up to them. I think in every style of writing it's possible to do some great things. For me a poem is good when it makes me feel something no matter how it was written.
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ReplyDeleteI prefer free verse because you don't have to follow rule and it can still be consider a poem.
Antoine
I like how free verse, but actually prefer the ones that follow suit, or at least a set of rules. They don't have to be obvious, actually, the more it feels like a puzzle, the better it is. The kid in me is talking...
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