These two poems weren't as good as the other ones in my opinion. In fact, I read Dickinson's poem first and had a hard time understanding that it was about a train.
My team and I agreed that ''To a Locomotive in Winter'' had a lot of sexual connotations to it. Fierce-throated beauty for example. It certainly had an admirative tone to it, maybe a little too admirative.
I appreciated the old English used by Whitman. Dickinson didn't inspire me much and I hope to read more from her so that my opinion can change.
I personally didn't understand the meaning of these two poems we had read on last class. There were words that I didn't knew, so it didn't helped me understanding. I'll try revising those by Friday.
Also, there's sometimes questions you're asking the class, and that I can't answer you because I've never learned it before. As an exemple, you asked us friday what was the tone of the two poems; however, I don't know what are the different types of ''tone'' in french. Maybe we should get notes for helping us learning new stuff about poems. It's really cool reading poems but it would be MORE awesome understanding the questions you are asking us ...
I just reread the poems just before writing this. I recon at first, when I was reading the poem of Dickinson in class which I read before Whitman's one, I did not understand what that was all about, the train and all. Tiredness is probably in cause, because it really is obvious now. Anyways. And, as I said last time, the poems are much better when analyzed. About ''The Locomotive in the Winter,'' the words such as: thee, thy and the are pretty nice; it makes a good rythm in the poem, nice to read. =)
The first poem was, in my opinion, a little hard to understand. Even now, knowing that it's about a train, I understand it but I don't find it OBVIOUS. In my opinion, it could have been about so many other things.
I prefered the second poem. It was easier to understand and quite musical while reading it out loud. I liked it!
I agree with Ève and Ariane, it was very hard to understand at first but with the explanations its more obvious, but still not that much...But I liked those poems because of their musicality.
Emily Dickinson's poem was pretty vague, that's why I didn't know that she was talking (more about describing it's way of moving...)about a train. After the teacher's explainations, I was like "Oh, okay...yeah, it makes sense". About Walt Whitman's poem... The moment I received the paper, all I saw was a column of "Th-".What makes it special it's the appearance of the poem. Normally, they're all kind of short with many verses, but this one it's different. Still, it's a poem and there's a rhythm. I enjoyed more Emily's.
I think the best way to understand a poem is to read it once, have some explainations and re-read it again so everything would become more clear.
The first poem with Dickinson was, in my opinion, very hard to understand. Furtunately, with the teacher explanation, it was a lot more easier to figure out. If not, I wouldn't have known that it was about a train (at least not for my first reading). I prefered the second poem. It was more poetic due to the phonetic and with the add of old english, it made it simply more epic, beautiful and so on but above all, it was easier to understand.
I was with Kevin when we read it and yes, we did find the train poem awkwardly sexual. I guess it's his strong admiration of the strength a train have, strength being an attibute of masculinity and therefore easy to misunderstand...
I wasn't really interested in Dickinson's poem. I have to confess that I am not a fan of poetry itself, so english poetry is even harder for me to appreciate. But I am not closed to it, as I learned that you cannot appreciate complicated notions like this in one day.
As everyone, I had no idea what Emily Dickinson's poem was about and I hadn't understand that she was sarcastic before you explained it, but I think this is a nice poem, even if I would I've needed to search a lot of words in the dictionary to understand it alone. However I like the fact that you give us time to read it and that we analyse it together,because honestly I would not be able to do it alone. I hope we'll continue like that... Jany Tessier
It’s maybe a bit repetitive but I found the two poems difficult to understand. In both poems the words were too complicated; it was hard to comprehend the whole meaning of it. It’s also very hard to analyse a text without understand the basic elements. I couldn’t even recognise the fact that it was explaining the description and the perception of a train in both poems. Hopefully, the next text that we will read will be easier to figure out. Émilie B.G
Not quite a fan of these two poems. Trains leave me rather indifferent, so expressing admiration or disdain for them does not strike a chord in me. Hopefully we get to that Shakespeare poem soon. His and Frost's poems were the best we read in the class.
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These two poems weren't as good as the other ones in my opinion. In fact, I read Dickinson's poem first and had a hard time understanding that it was about a train.
ReplyDeleteMy team and I agreed that ''To a Locomotive in Winter'' had a lot of sexual connotations to it. Fierce-throated beauty for example. It certainly had an admirative tone to it, maybe a little too admirative.
I appreciated the old English used by Whitman. Dickinson didn't inspire me much and I hope to read more from her so that my opinion can change.
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ReplyDeleteI personally didn't understand the meaning of these two poems we had read on last class. There were words that I didn't knew, so it didn't helped me understanding. I'll try revising those by Friday.
Also, there's sometimes questions you're asking the class, and that I can't answer you because I've never learned it before. As an exemple, you asked us friday what was the tone of the two poems; however, I don't know what are the different types of ''tone'' in french. Maybe we should get notes for helping us learning new stuff about poems. It's really cool reading poems but it would be MORE awesome understanding the questions you are asking us ...
Sakina G.
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ReplyDeleteI just reread the poems just before writing this. I recon at first, when I was reading the poem of Dickinson in class which I read before Whitman's one, I did not understand what that was all about, the train and all. Tiredness is probably in cause, because it really is obvious now. Anyways. And, as I said last time, the poems are much better when analyzed.
About ''The Locomotive in the Winter,'' the words such as: thee, thy and the are pretty nice; it makes a good rythm in the poem, nice to read.
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The first poem was, in my opinion, a little hard to understand. Even now, knowing that it's about a train, I understand it but I don't find it OBVIOUS. In my opinion, it could have been about so many other things.
ReplyDeleteI prefered the second poem. It was easier to understand and quite musical while reading it out loud. I liked it!
Ève Kirouac-Turmel
I agree with Ève and Ariane, it was very hard to understand at first but with the explanations its more obvious, but still not that much...But I liked those poems because of their musicality.
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Emily Dickinson's poem was pretty vague, that's why I didn't know that she was talking (more about describing it's way of moving...)about a train. After the teacher's explainations, I was like "Oh, okay...yeah, it makes sense".
ReplyDeleteAbout Walt Whitman's poem... The moment I received the paper, all I saw was a column of "Th-".What makes it special it's the appearance of the poem. Normally, they're all kind of short with many verses, but this one it's different. Still, it's a poem and there's a rhythm. I enjoyed more Emily's.
I think the best way to understand a poem is to read it once, have some explainations and re-read it again so everything would become more clear.
Angela Chen
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ReplyDeleteThe first poem with Dickinson was, in my opinion, very hard to understand. Furtunately, with the teacher explanation, it was a lot more easier to figure out. If not, I wouldn't have known that it was about a train (at least not for my first reading).
I prefered the second poem. It was more poetic due to the phonetic and with the add of old english, it made it simply more epic, beautiful and so on but above all, it was easier to understand.
Antoine Després
I was with Kevin when we read it and yes, we did find the train poem awkwardly sexual. I guess it's his strong admiration of the strength a train have, strength being an attibute of masculinity and therefore easy to misunderstand...
ReplyDeleteI wasn't really interested in Dickinson's poem. I have to confess that I am not a fan of poetry itself, so english poetry is even harder for me to appreciate. But I am not closed to it, as I learned that you cannot appreciate complicated notions like this in one day.
As everyone, I had no idea what Emily Dickinson's poem was about and I hadn't understand that she was sarcastic before you explained it, but I think this is a nice poem, even if I would I've needed to search a lot of words in the dictionary to understand it alone.
ReplyDeleteHowever I like the fact that you give us time to read it and that we analyse it together,because honestly I would not be able to do it alone. I hope we'll continue like that...
Jany Tessier
It’s maybe a bit repetitive but I found the two poems difficult to understand. In both poems the words were too complicated; it was hard to comprehend the whole meaning of it. It’s also very hard to analyse a text without understand the basic elements. I couldn’t even recognise the fact that it was explaining the description and the perception of a train in both poems. Hopefully, the next text that we will read will be easier to figure out.
ReplyDeleteÉmilie B.G
Not quite a fan of these two poems. Trains leave me rather indifferent, so expressing admiration or disdain for them does not strike a chord in me. Hopefully we get to that Shakespeare poem soon. His and Frost's poems were the best we read in the class.
ReplyDeleteI did not find the peoms that we read in class really interesting since their subject was not really something I was fond of, train.
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