Hello everyone,
Here's a great paradoxical quote that relates to the theme of our poetry discussion for this week. I read that many of you enjoyed reading "For my daughter", and I'm eager to read your comments.
I hate quotations. Tell me what you know.
Ralph Waldo Emerson
US essayist & poet (1803 - 1882)
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I enjoyed reading the poem "For my daughter" because it throws us off course =P at the beginning, the title makes us think that he dedicated the poem for his daughter until we realize that he is just talking to a daughter he doesn't have and doesn't think he will ever have.
ReplyDeleteMaybe I liked it because I am worried about having children in the same way that the author does and maybe a lot of others do too xD it's part of life ...
I hate quotations. Tell me what you know. xD
Funny because if anyone just goes and writes anything in an essay and it's not from a source that the system thinks is reliable, no one is going to give a damn and it won't be valid or something.
In the past, knowledge could simply be transmitted from parent to child but nowadays we have to have a degree to have any credibility and the standards rise as time passes. We are all under rules that we have no choice to follow to live >_> the governments regulatings the things we know. Soon enough, people won't be sure of themselves anymore and won't be able to use intuition, logic and personal experience anymore.
Okay we haven't even discussed this yet cause it's Friday la so I will shut up because maybe I have no point =D but that's what the quote there reminded me.
Random nosy comment:
ReplyDeleteWth are you doing up at 4am Olivier xD ( unless I am mistaken but it says you posted this at 4am ) go back to sleep lol sleep is good, sleep when you can ;_;!
I enjoy the poem "For my daughter" because it's a deep poem filled out of emotions. It seems like the author really hate thinking about his daughter (which he strangely never had ). The structure is truly negative in that poem. The vocabulary as: Foul,hate or the sentence "I have no daughter.I desire none" inspire the misfortune and maybe the author's sorrow about something related to his imaginary daughter. Something is certain, he totally disagree to have a daughter. The author was completely disappointed and as Mr.Pelletier said in class, the author commited suicide, so we can at which point he was hurt in his life...
ReplyDelete-Catherine Lacroix
Correction ;) of the last sentence: So we can see at which point he has been hurt in his life.
ReplyDeleteCatherine L.
I think that this program reads AM when it is in the PM.
ReplyDeleteIf I can help you with my tricky quiz questions I will say to consider the tone,(attitude) that the writer have towards the subject of the poem. Use your thesaurus if you need to.
Happy reading.
Olivier Pelletier
I think "for my daughter" poem has a pretty deep voice. It comes out from deep inside tha author's heart. I also think this poem has been written as a way to express his concers about if he would be a great father or to express the fact that he is scared about the obligations his future daughter would have back in that time.
ReplyDeleteit is a beautiful poem! one of my favorite at that point. it has a great punch at the end. a great end that leave us speechless.
i really enjoyed it. in addition, it was in an English that anybody in the class was able to understand (not in old english, that is what I mean)
i'm looking forward to read one that will have the same impact. :)
I liked For my daughter because of its contradictions, full of feelings, of a so-called father that is not really one, expressing his concerns about youth nowadays, and looking foward in the future, seeing what could happen in the worse situation if he had a daughter, completely dissuading himself of ever having one.
ReplyDelete"For my daughter" was a nice poem to read, as Marilyn said, it was pretty easy to understand and that's good when you consider that you gave us a hard time with others. I enjoyed the reading because it was easier to understand than what we're slowly getting use to and also because it's easy to do a reflexion on it. The end really is punchy and that makes me think of the reasons the author had to wrote this surprising end. We all can figure out that he had a "bad" life and I think the reason he didn't want any daughter was to protect her from the life that have been pretty "wild" with him.
ReplyDeleteMarie-Eve Pilote
The poem ''For my daughter'' quickly takes the voice of a pessimist. At the beginning, the author says how it would be nice to have a daughter. Then, he imagines a world of pain for her and a life of problems... A good way to forget the desire of having a daughter.
ReplyDeleteThe last line is tricky : ''I do not have a daughter, I desire none''. He desired one but killed away the feeling. Pessimism always hurts; no kidding he commited suicide. To me it is a dry, pessimist, resentful (almost angry) tone. The best attitude to kill emotions.
Jéronimo, part time psychologist
Weldon kees' poem "For my daughter" has a sorrowful and gloomy mood. The poet attitude toward the perspective of having a daughter is undoubtedly pessimistic. His approach to childhood gives the idea that world is not the place for a weak, innocent and pretty little girl. The reader have this feeling nothing is good. Moreover, the sound of the next two verses have a rhythm which is inclined in the author's conviction life does not worth the while:
ReplyDelete"The night’s slow poison, tolerant and bland,
Has moved her blood [...]"
I found this poem truly defeatist and hopeless but as a matter of fact well written and the last line really is a bombshell.
I have to say that I enjoyed reading the poem "For my daughter", because of the ending, which has a great punch "line". It was easy to read and the author knew how to express the pessimistic view he has of the world.
ReplyDeleteAs for the quotation you gave in the blog, well I absolutely agree with everything that Peace V said.
See you later!
Valérie Goulet Talbot
Practically all I wanted to say has been said!
ReplyDeleteThe poem is dark and pessimistic, probably like the author himself.
A feminist reading this poem could also have a problem with the poem as the woman in it is seen as weak and a bit foolish. (I'm not a "feminist" but I thought I should say that hihihi)
The poem basically says that there is no hope in life, no matter who you are (even the daughter of a poet) life will get you down.
It was interesting to read as some aspects of his pessimism towards life can be true, but it also gave me a weird feeling when I read it. Even if I complain (a lot!) I'm mostly a positive person, so I felt a little uncomfortable with all that darkness.
I sort of appreciate the poem mostly because of it's use of a shocking ending but i don't agree with the author.
ReplyDeleteShe seems to mean that the world is not a place for children. Of course their is a lot of violence and horror in the humain kind but world also have beautiful things and it has to be seen.
Stop making children is not the way to provide violence or anything that disturb you.
Francis Goyer
I found the poem really interesting to read, first of all because it was short but also because the author is using a really dark tone. The poem is really negative and pessimistic just as Weldon Kees himself. Despite the "unusual" tone, the poem is really well structured, in fact, he uses cross rhymes (ABAB) and some "envelope" rhymes (ABBA). I think that the author is scared of having children. In this case, he is thinking about an imaginary daughter. Because of the "hard comments", we know that he doesn't want to have a child "I have no daughter, I desire no one", maybe because he is aware of all the nastiness in the world. Probably because he doesn't want a weak and pure human being to hurt by all that meanness.
ReplyDeleteVanessa
"For my daughter" is a great poem.
ReplyDeleteWith a negative structure, Weldon Kees shows well his opinion.To be father is not a pleasure for him and at the end I felt relieved that he doesn't have children. We always see the good sides to have kids. We can't take this pessimistic poem seriously because he only wrote his thoughts about life.
Chloé
I really enjoy to read the poem "For my daughter",the end really surprised me and the vocabulary was easy to understand.I think this poem is negative because of words that the author use to describes his imaginary daugther.
ReplyDeletehope you'll give us other poems like this one.
alexandra kafant
I love the poem «For my daughter». I wasn't able to think that some people don't want to have children in their life. That poem opened my eyes and it shows me a different way to think, a way to «protect» someone that doesn’t even exist. I love the tone of it and the way the author (Weldon Kees) wrote it. The phrases that I love the more, is probably the last one: « I have no daughter. I desire none.» because it’s the most surprising phrase in this poem.
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